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		<title>Comment on Burka, will you forever remain so controversial? by anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post. If we assume that forcing women to remove their burka will in some way empower them, we&#039;re wrong. Who knows, maybe wearing it empowers them to not be sex symbols... It&#039;s fair to assume that different women wear it for different reasons, some by force, some by choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post. If we assume that forcing women to remove their burka will in some way empower them, we&#8217;re wrong. Who knows, maybe wearing it empowers them to not be sex symbols&#8230; It&#8217;s fair to assume that different women wear it for different reasons, some by force, some by choice?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bowling For Columbine is shit, #2 by Bowling for Columbine is shit. &#124; Montreal Philosophy</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/bowling-for-columbine-is-shit-2/comment-page-1/#comment-6448</link>
		<dc:creator>Bowling for Columbine is shit. &#124; Montreal Philosophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Drugs: paternalistic government or absolute self-ownership? by Neoliberalism: The Misunderstood Ideology (assuming it exists). &#124; Montreal Philosophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neoliberalism: The Misunderstood Ideology (assuming it exists). &#124; Montreal Philosophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right for a Muslim to consume intoxicants, drugs, alcohol? by payday loans</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/is-it-right-for-a-muslim-to-consume-intoxicants-drugs-alcohol/comment-page-1/#comment-5227</link>
		<dc:creator>payday loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am completely impressed with the article I have just read. I wish the author of montrealphilosophy.com can continue to provide so much practical information and unforgettable experience to montrealphilosophy.com readers. There is not much to state except the following universal truth: A person who says something is impossible is usually interrupted by the person doing it. I will be back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am completely impressed with the article I have just read. I wish the author of montrealphilosophy.com can continue to provide so much practical information and unforgettable experience to montrealphilosophy.com readers. There is not much to state except the following universal truth: A person who says something is impossible is usually interrupted by the person doing it. I will be back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Liberalism and Primitivism: Choice, or the natural and primitive life? by L'homme au chapeau Brûlant</title>
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		<dc:creator>L'homme au chapeau Brûlant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberté!
C&#039;est vrai qu&#039;elle est difficile à voir. Je me promène souvent dans la ville à sa recherche, dommage qu&#039;elle ne soit pas matérielle. Mais observer les gens, les voitures et les oiseaux, me permet de voir la colombe blanche qui se pose sur mon épaule parfois.

Comprendre que nous avons le choix
Bâtir son propre toit. 
Être fier de soi.

The Bleeding Cowboy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberté!<br />
C&#8217;est vrai qu&#8217;elle est difficile à voir. Je me promène souvent dans la ville à sa recherche, dommage qu&#8217;elle ne soit pas matérielle. Mais observer les gens, les voitures et les oiseaux, me permet de voir la colombe blanche qui se pose sur mon épaule parfois.</p>
<p>Comprendre que nous avons le choix<br />
Bâtir son propre toit.<br />
Être fier de soi.</p>
<p>The Bleeding Cowboy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Analysis of William Wordsworth&#8217;s &#8220;Ode: Intimations of Immortality from Recollections Of Early Childhood&#8221; by aacemosp</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/an-analysis-of-william-wordsworths-ode-intimations-of-immortality-from-recollections-of-early-childhood/comment-page-1/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>aacemosp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;aacemosp...&lt;/strong&gt;

aacemosp...</description>
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		<title>Comment on The God Concept: is it rational to believe in God? by VIRGEL</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/the-god-concept-is-it-rational-to-believe-in-god/comment-page-1/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>VIRGEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  Still don&#039;t know if it is rational for me to believe in God but a really great read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  Still don&#8217;t know if it is rational for me to believe in God but a really great read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is it right for a Muslim to consume intoxicants, drugs, alcohol? by kkk</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/is-it-right-for-a-muslim-to-consume-intoxicants-drugs-alcohol/comment-page-1/#comment-807</link>
		<dc:creator>kkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was wondering if you could still pray after smkoing weed or drinkng. someone told me that you are nafaq or dirty in a sense for 36 days and you can&#039;t pray. Ithink you still can pray just not while your are intoxicated when you sober up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was wondering if you could still pray after smkoing weed or drinkng. someone told me that you are nafaq or dirty in a sense for 36 days and you can&#8217;t pray. Ithink you still can pray just not while your are intoxicated when you sober up?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seal Clubbing: unethical, but let&#8217;s not be hypocritical. by johnstevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>п»ї
This post really helped me out. Thanks.</description>
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This post really helped me out. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The value of Japanese blood, and the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by invasion of japan &#187; Sheldon Drobny: The Myth of Hiroshima</title>
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		<dc:creator>invasion of japan &#187; Sheldon Drobny: The Myth of Hiroshima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The value of Japanese blood, and the destruction of Hiroshima and &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Ethics of Female Circumcision: not as simple as it seems by Sirius</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/the-ethics-of-female-circumcision-not-as-simple-as-it-seems/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Sirius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The arguments attempting to separate male circumcision from the female variety are strained and not very convincing to men whose circumcision amounted to genital mutilation. Serious so-called complications include urethral laceration, partial glans amputation, insufficient skin for erection (not recognized until puberty), buried penis, amputation, and rarely death (1 in 500,000). By any measure there are *thousands* of men in the U.S. whose circumcisions resulted in these injuries. Here we have a fake feminist attacking the non-consensual removal of sexual tissue from girls by dismissing the non-consensual removal of sexual tissue from boys. But that swings both ways: circumcision of girls is performed almost exclusively by women, and for the same litany of reasons: better hygiene, looks better, reduces the incidence of urinary tract infections and vulvar cancer, and best of all everyone does it. Few circumcised women report any problems from it, and if it really was harmful it would have died out by now, especially considering it&#039;s women who are doing the circumcising.

Female circumcision will never be stopped by promoting male circumcision. Circumcision of boys and girls is a psycho-sexual cultural disease, passed on from one mutilated generation to the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The arguments attempting to separate male circumcision from the female variety are strained and not very convincing to men whose circumcision amounted to genital mutilation. Serious so-called complications include urethral laceration, partial glans amputation, insufficient skin for erection (not recognized until puberty), buried penis, amputation, and rarely death (1 in 500,000). By any measure there are *thousands* of men in the U.S. whose circumcisions resulted in these injuries. Here we have a fake feminist attacking the non-consensual removal of sexual tissue from girls by dismissing the non-consensual removal of sexual tissue from boys. But that swings both ways: circumcision of girls is performed almost exclusively by women, and for the same litany of reasons: better hygiene, looks better, reduces the incidence of urinary tract infections and vulvar cancer, and best of all everyone does it. Few circumcised women report any problems from it, and if it really was harmful it would have died out by now, especially considering it&#8217;s women who are doing the circumcising.</p>
<p>Female circumcision will never be stopped by promoting male circumcision. Circumcision of boys and girls is a psycho-sexual cultural disease, passed on from one mutilated generation to the next.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Ethics of Female Circumcision: not as simple as it seems by Dussault</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/the-ethics-of-female-circumcision-not-as-simple-as-it-seems/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Dussault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments I gave directly to someone:

I have absolutely no idea if we could convince them to &quot;switch&quot;. We need more data on FGM amongst Canadians. I assume that they do not all just abandon the practice once they immigrate here; it&#039;s the kind of thing that&#039;s kept in the dark, so it&#039;s impossible to know and thus we must be careful not to engage in wishful thinking. I doubt it&#039;s the kind of thing that would last through the generations: I expect that second generation immigrants would be far less likely to get the procedure done.

Even amongst African countries, there are a lot of differences on the details behind the practices as well as in the beliefs that fuel them. The WHO has some data on the different &quot;types&quot; of FGM and their prevalence, but I don&#039;t like how the different types are organised and it doesn&#039;t tell us how they see the whole thing.

But, at the very least, it might be easier to convince them to modify the procedure than to stop it; though the sewing of the majora lips is probably hard to replace, since this has a clear &quot;mechanical&quot; purpose, while removing the clitoral glans -- the other &quot;problematic&quot; form of FGM -- could be removed, all while keeping the removal of the clitoral hood and labia minora (the girls often get a &quot;package deal&quot;).

The issue here is that there&#039;s no way to enforce this. An educational campaign in these countries would be more useful than laws that can not be enforced and, rather than advocate a total ban, it would be easier to focus efforts on ending sub-sets of FGM so that people who practice it do not feel completely alienated. But maybe it&#039;s better to just focus on ending FGM as a whole; it&#039;s really hard to say.

Egypt, where the practice is almost universal, appears to have banned it in 2007. We&#039;ll have to see how this turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments I gave directly to someone:</p>
<p>I have absolutely no idea if we could convince them to &#8220;switch&#8221;. We need more data on FGM amongst Canadians. I assume that they do not all just abandon the practice once they immigrate here; it&#8217;s the kind of thing that&#8217;s kept in the dark, so it&#8217;s impossible to know and thus we must be careful not to engage in wishful thinking. I doubt it&#8217;s the kind of thing that would last through the generations: I expect that second generation immigrants would be far less likely to get the procedure done.</p>
<p>Even amongst African countries, there are a lot of differences on the details behind the practices as well as in the beliefs that fuel them. The WHO has some data on the different &#8220;types&#8221; of FGM and their prevalence, but I don&#8217;t like how the different types are organised and it doesn&#8217;t tell us how they see the whole thing.</p>
<p>But, at the very least, it might be easier to convince them to modify the procedure than to stop it; though the sewing of the majora lips is probably hard to replace, since this has a clear &#8220;mechanical&#8221; purpose, while removing the clitoral glans &#8212; the other &#8220;problematic&#8221; form of FGM &#8212; could be removed, all while keeping the removal of the clitoral hood and labia minora (the girls often get a &#8220;package deal&#8221;).</p>
<p>The issue here is that there&#8217;s no way to enforce this. An educational campaign in these countries would be more useful than laws that can not be enforced and, rather than advocate a total ban, it would be easier to focus efforts on ending sub-sets of FGM so that people who practice it do not feel completely alienated. But maybe it&#8217;s better to just focus on ending FGM as a whole; it&#8217;s really hard to say.</p>
<p>Egypt, where the practice is almost universal, appears to have banned it in 2007. We&#8217;ll have to see how this turns out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seal Clubbing: unethical, but let&#8217;s not be hypocritical. by Bell Tower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bell Tower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 17:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post.  Voltaire as always is educational.  It is good to see someone penetrate through the surface skin of conventional wisdom and get to the actual philosophy behind what they believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post.  Voltaire as always is educational.  It is good to see someone penetrate through the surface skin of conventional wisdom and get to the actual philosophy behind what they believe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A liberal&#8217;s rant against liberals by Bell Tower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bell Tower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good points.  A condition of total liberty obviously is anarchy - which is distinct from true classical liberalism.  In America both the major parties are contradictory where government power is concerned.  Get the government out of my womb but you over there - put your seatbelt on.  Keep the government out of my kid&#039;s Bible reading but stop that gay couple next door from getting married.  Freedom from government intrsuion is claimed as a blanket belief but quickly discarded when there&#039;s expectation of some entitlement or other.

For my part, the line depends on the circumstance.  Obviously we need some amount of government.  The problem with mankind is that we are incessantly driven to mind each other&#039;s business.  Since that will never change, we need a government that is designed to be restrained in its actions.  This core principle has been almost entirely abandoned in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good points.  A condition of total liberty obviously is anarchy &#8211; which is distinct from true classical liberalism.  In America both the major parties are contradictory where government power is concerned.  Get the government out of my womb but you over there &#8211; put your seatbelt on.  Keep the government out of my kid&#8217;s Bible reading but stop that gay couple next door from getting married.  Freedom from government intrsuion is claimed as a blanket belief but quickly discarded when there&#8217;s expectation of some entitlement or other.</p>
<p>For my part, the line depends on the circumstance.  Obviously we need some amount of government.  The problem with mankind is that we are incessantly driven to mind each other&#8217;s business.  Since that will never change, we need a government that is designed to be restrained in its actions.  This core principle has been almost entirely abandoned in America.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fear of misinterpretations. by MikeM</title>
		<link>http://montrealphilosophy.com/the-difficulty-of-being-yourself/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still don’t know if she assigned a purpose to my action (that I put the wallet on the table so as to have an excuse to meet her again), or if she assumed that I had just left it there by accident (that I put it on the table because I was more comfortable that way).&quot;

I worked for Burroughs Corporation in the 1970s. It was founded by William S Burroughs (not the &quot;Naked Lunch&quot; one, but his grandfather), who invented a major improvement to mechanical adding machines. It went on to manufacture and sell cash registers, mechanical ledger accounting machines and electronic calculators. (It accidentally strayed into the computer manufacturing market - which is why I was there - without conspicuous success, and later became part of Unisys.)

Anyway, one of the old-guard salesmen told me that when he first joined, it was compulsory for salesmen (there were no saleswomen) to wear a hat (a real hat of the sort that went with a suit in the 1950s and 60s and that you tipped to a lady and took off indoors, not some crap LA backward-worn baseball cap).

In calling on a prospect in an effort to sell a machine, if unsuccessful the salesman was supposed to leave his hat behind so that he could make an appointment to collect it and try his sales pitch again.

Since the price and functional difference between Burroughs, NCR and what other brands of accounting machines that existed were minor, persistence probably paid off.

If the only girl in her early 20s I know is any guide,  with her, it certainly wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still don’t know if she assigned a purpose to my action (that I put the wallet on the table so as to have an excuse to meet her again), or if she assumed that I had just left it there by accident (that I put it on the table because I was more comfortable that way).&#8221;</p>
<p>I worked for Burroughs Corporation in the 1970s. It was founded by William S Burroughs (not the &#8220;Naked Lunch&#8221; one, but his grandfather), who invented a major improvement to mechanical adding machines. It went on to manufacture and sell cash registers, mechanical ledger accounting machines and electronic calculators. (It accidentally strayed into the computer manufacturing market &#8211; which is why I was there &#8211; without conspicuous success, and later became part of Unisys.)</p>
<p>Anyway, one of the old-guard salesmen told me that when he first joined, it was compulsory for salesmen (there were no saleswomen) to wear a hat (a real hat of the sort that went with a suit in the 1950s and 60s and that you tipped to a lady and took off indoors, not some crap LA backward-worn baseball cap).</p>
<p>In calling on a prospect in an effort to sell a machine, if unsuccessful the salesman was supposed to leave his hat behind so that he could make an appointment to collect it and try his sales pitch again.</p>
<p>Since the price and functional difference between Burroughs, NCR and what other brands of accounting machines that existed were minor, persistence probably paid off.</p>
<p>If the only girl in her early 20s I know is any guide,  with her, it certainly wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fear of misinterpretations. by Rawr_Inc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rawr_Inc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue at hand is mostly related to communication. One cannot know for sure what another really is thinking (or isn&#039;t).

For the example at hand, riding a bicycle without touching the handles. The spectator is left to his self-interpretation of the scene, he decides whether or not he cares and whether or not he finds it pretentious. To decide, he can only rely on the image you project : your expressions, where you look, how well you&#039;re doing the action, whether you give attention to people around you, etc, and all of those things can be very subjectively interpreted.

With friends, the basis of interpretation is much more detailed, they can relate your present actions to your past actions, to how they perceive the way you think about those things, etc + all of the things related to the image you project at the moment.

With lovers, the basis is even more detailed, since honesty is much more present (in general). For instance, I might tell things which aren&#039;t 100% true to my friends, to either protect myself, or just save time or any other reason. But those little lies or omissions should, in an ideal relationship, not be there. My conception of an ideal relationship is one of pure honesty, unbridled communication. Something hard to attain because it leaves each person very vulnerable to the other.


To get back to the point, we may represent this situation in a very practical and simple analogy.

To determine what someone is thinking, we need an exchange of information. Suppose two persons are placed in two separate rooms, the rooms are linked with a corridor blocked by a significant number of windows. One person (Actor) is doing an action and the other (Spectator) has to determine what the action is. Now if we relate to the bicycle situation, you are the actor, the person seeing you is the spectator (obviously ..) and what you are thinking is the action the actor is committing.

-If the person seeing you on your bicycle is a stranger, the windows in the corridor are dirty and sometimes deforming glasses, very little information gets by, so it&#039;s hard to see what the actor is really doing.

-If the person is a friend, the windows are much cleaner and you can approximately see what the actor is doing. So the spectator can pose a mildly accurate judgment of what the actor is doing. Like your friends can pose a mildly accurate judgment of what you are thinking while riding your bicycle.

- If the person is your lover, the windows are very clean and it&#039;s pretty obvious what the actor is doing. The spectator can then pose an accurate judgment. Akin to the judgment a lover might pose on your thoughts.

- In an ideal situation, with ideal lovers, then the corridor might as well be completely empty, without any windows to block out the information.

The percentage of chance to have an accurate judgment is directly related to the quantity and quality of the information we receive.

In a public situation, one way to project a more accurate image of yourself is to maximize the information you send, if people sending suggestive stares, tell them you&#039;re not doing that to impress them ... and/or be expressively clear in your attitude that it is not your objective.
Another pertinent question is to ask yourself whether you care or not what strangers might think of you. If you don&#039;t care, no need to bother monitoring the information you send out.


It seems logical to say that transparency is the best way to ensure people don&#039;t misinterpret you. If everyone could be sure what another one is thinking, many of the worlds problems would go away. In our society, a large part of our energy is sunk in ensuring everyone is honest, that no one tries . The justice system, government, locks or barriers of all kind, paperwork, MONEY, bureaucracy in general, etc etc. All are forms of communications or way to make this communication clear and unambiguous.

But in our society, with the way things work, with the fact that we know we can do things and get away with them without anyone knowing the what or the why, we will of course be pushed to hides our motives at some point or another, for sometimes very valid reasons, even sometimes just for fun, being mysterious can be a major character trait.

Just for fun, ask yourself this, what would you do, if you were sure everyone was going to know the what and the why of your action, as you were doing it. Privacy is one of the petty things we cling to in our petty human condition.

     Rawr_Inc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue at hand is mostly related to communication. One cannot know for sure what another really is thinking (or isn&#8217;t).</p>
<p>For the example at hand, riding a bicycle without touching the handles. The spectator is left to his self-interpretation of the scene, he decides whether or not he cares and whether or not he finds it pretentious. To decide, he can only rely on the image you project : your expressions, where you look, how well you&#8217;re doing the action, whether you give attention to people around you, etc, and all of those things can be very subjectively interpreted.</p>
<p>With friends, the basis of interpretation is much more detailed, they can relate your present actions to your past actions, to how they perceive the way you think about those things, etc + all of the things related to the image you project at the moment.</p>
<p>With lovers, the basis is even more detailed, since honesty is much more present (in general). For instance, I might tell things which aren&#8217;t 100% true to my friends, to either protect myself, or just save time or any other reason. But those little lies or omissions should, in an ideal relationship, not be there. My conception of an ideal relationship is one of pure honesty, unbridled communication. Something hard to attain because it leaves each person very vulnerable to the other.</p>
<p>To get back to the point, we may represent this situation in a very practical and simple analogy.</p>
<p>To determine what someone is thinking, we need an exchange of information. Suppose two persons are placed in two separate rooms, the rooms are linked with a corridor blocked by a significant number of windows. One person (Actor) is doing an action and the other (Spectator) has to determine what the action is. Now if we relate to the bicycle situation, you are the actor, the person seeing you is the spectator (obviously ..) and what you are thinking is the action the actor is committing.</p>
<p>-If the person seeing you on your bicycle is a stranger, the windows in the corridor are dirty and sometimes deforming glasses, very little information gets by, so it&#8217;s hard to see what the actor is really doing.</p>
<p>-If the person is a friend, the windows are much cleaner and you can approximately see what the actor is doing. So the spectator can pose a mildly accurate judgment of what the actor is doing. Like your friends can pose a mildly accurate judgment of what you are thinking while riding your bicycle.</p>
<p>- If the person is your lover, the windows are very clean and it&#8217;s pretty obvious what the actor is doing. The spectator can then pose an accurate judgment. Akin to the judgment a lover might pose on your thoughts.</p>
<p>- In an ideal situation, with ideal lovers, then the corridor might as well be completely empty, without any windows to block out the information.</p>
<p>The percentage of chance to have an accurate judgment is directly related to the quantity and quality of the information we receive.</p>
<p>In a public situation, one way to project a more accurate image of yourself is to maximize the information you send, if people sending suggestive stares, tell them you&#8217;re not doing that to impress them &#8230; and/or be expressively clear in your attitude that it is not your objective.<br />
Another pertinent question is to ask yourself whether you care or not what strangers might think of you. If you don&#8217;t care, no need to bother monitoring the information you send out.</p>
<p>It seems logical to say that transparency is the best way to ensure people don&#8217;t misinterpret you. If everyone could be sure what another one is thinking, many of the worlds problems would go away. In our society, a large part of our energy is sunk in ensuring everyone is honest, that no one tries . The justice system, government, locks or barriers of all kind, paperwork, MONEY, bureaucracy in general, etc etc. All are forms of communications or way to make this communication clear and unambiguous.</p>
<p>But in our society, with the way things work, with the fact that we know we can do things and get away with them without anyone knowing the what or the why, we will of course be pushed to hides our motives at some point or another, for sometimes very valid reasons, even sometimes just for fun, being mysterious can be a major character trait.</p>
<p>Just for fun, ask yourself this, what would you do, if you were sure everyone was going to know the what and the why of your action, as you were doing it. Privacy is one of the petty things we cling to in our petty human condition.</p>
<p>     Rawr_Inc</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concede that there&#039;s a good case to make in favour of having a public news organisation such a the BBC and others like it.

However, this case does not justify subsidising a sitcom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concede that there&#8217;s a good case to make in favour of having a public news organisation such a the BBC and others like it.</p>
<p>However, this case does not justify subsidising a sitcom.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 04:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to look at the TED talk later. However, I do suspect that the way the drug trade is organised in the United States as compared to in Canada might (might) explain part of the difference, since many murders come out of drug money.

This, however, could be isolated by comparing national rates of family murders (mother kills daughter, man kills wife etc). I&#039;ll have to look around later. I think that Statcan has numbers like these and if anyone else has such stats it&#039;s the US.

As for a genetic basis, I can&#039;t imagine how you could reasonably argue that. Cultural perhaps, but genetic? Extremely improbable. If it is true, then there should be little difference between Haitian immigrants in Canada and the United States.

Cheers,
Dussault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to look at the TED talk later. However, I do suspect that the way the drug trade is organised in the United States as compared to in Canada might (might) explain part of the difference, since many murders come out of drug money.</p>
<p>This, however, could be isolated by comparing national rates of family murders (mother kills daughter, man kills wife etc). I&#8217;ll have to look around later. I think that Statcan has numbers like these and if anyone else has such stats it&#8217;s the US.</p>
<p>As for a genetic basis, I can&#8217;t imagine how you could reasonably argue that. Cultural perhaps, but genetic? Extremely improbable. If it is true, then there should be little difference between Haitian immigrants in Canada and the United States.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dussault.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although lengthy, the judgement of Justice Gray in the case of David Irving v. Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt canvasses the issue of whether it is libelous to call someone a racist, http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/David_Irving_v._Penguin_Books_and_Deborah_Lipstadt

Background news reports at http://www.guardian.co.uk/irving/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although lengthy, the judgement of Justice Gray in the case of David Irving v. Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt canvasses the issue of whether it is libelous to call someone a racist, <a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/David_Irving_v._Penguin_Books_and_Deborah_Lipstadt" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/David_Irving_v._Penguin_Books_and_Deborah_Lipstadt</a></p>
<p>Background news reports at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/irving/" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/irving/</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why black youths shoot each other (although less often than they used to): http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/steven_levitt_analyzes_crack_economics.html

Why the high murder rate in the US? It&#039;s genetic: http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/us-politics-forum/64793-two-dead-shooting-college.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why black youths shoot each other (although less often than they used to): <a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/steven_levitt_analyzes_crack_economics.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/steven_levitt_analyzes_crack_economics.html</a></p>
<p>Why the high murder rate in the US? It&#8217;s genetic: <a href="http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/us-politics-forum/64793-two-dead-shooting-college.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicsandcurrentaffairs.co.uk/Forum/us-politics-forum/64793-two-dead-shooting-college.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on On Art &amp; Subsidies; An Open Letter to Xavier Dolan by MikeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I think that it’s too difficult to draw comparisons between the health or education industries and art, since from the first two sectors are needed by every citizen much in the same way, while for entertainment, not everyone has the same needs.&quot;

Disagree. I have never been pregnant so I have never needed obstetric services. No have I ever required an organ transplant. However I don&#039;t begrudge a share of our taxes going to help people who do need these services.

&quot;For example, Radio-Canada (a francophone television network) is funded by the government. I don’t care for television, but it’s popular enough, though far less than its private counterpart, TVA. This goes to show that a private network can indeed provide these services, and apparently, in a way that is better linked to the wants of people (and let’s not speak of the popularity of US-based television shows).&quot;

Again, disagree. Australia has a similar organisation, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, http://abc.net.au, which runs 2 TV channels, 7 sound networks (2 of which are web streaming only), an extensive web site, but its content, especially in the case of radio, is quite different from anything provided by commercial broadcasters. 

To equate the two kinds of service is like saying in the US that because there is Fox News you don&#039;t need National Public Radio, although its audience is eight times that of Fox.

Interestingly NPR is not government funded, but it is not provided by a commercial enterprise either. (In 2003 Ray Kroc&#039;s widow gave an endowment of $200 million, the largest gift ever to a US cultural institution. This has given it a degree of financial stability.)

&quot;Agricultural subsidies are well-supported, in some countries the mix between Church and State is encouraged by the people, but the popularity of policies can not, in itself, serve as a justification.&quot;

Popularity is often an important element of justification, but it needs to be balanced against collateral harm that the policy might cause. Agricultural subsidies are popular among US the farmers who receive them. They are also popular among US congressmen and senators who receive large campaign donations from subsidy recipients, but they are not popular among farmers in Mexico and elsewhere who have been driven off the land by subsidised US products that are priced lower than farmers&#039; cost of production.

A new crisis was subsequently created when the US introduced a subsidy for corn-based ethanol, causing the price of corn to skyrocket on world markets. 

And if there was a referendum asking US taxpayers whether they wanted $20 billion a year of government money to go mainly to a few hundred farmers, I&#039;m not sure there would be overwhelming support.

Interesting article on subsidies at http://progressive.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/article.php?article_id=315

Good article also on US health system reform at http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I think that it’s too difficult to draw comparisons between the health or education industries and art, since from the first two sectors are needed by every citizen much in the same way, while for entertainment, not everyone has the same needs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disagree. I have never been pregnant so I have never needed obstetric services. No have I ever required an organ transplant. However I don&#8217;t begrudge a share of our taxes going to help people who do need these services.</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, Radio-Canada (a francophone television network) is funded by the government. I don’t care for television, but it’s popular enough, though far less than its private counterpart, TVA. This goes to show that a private network can indeed provide these services, and apparently, in a way that is better linked to the wants of people (and let’s not speak of the popularity of US-based television shows).&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, disagree. Australia has a similar organisation, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, <a href="http://abc.net.au" rel="nofollow">http://abc.net.au</a>, which runs 2 TV channels, 7 sound networks (2 of which are web streaming only), an extensive web site, but its content, especially in the case of radio, is quite different from anything provided by commercial broadcasters. </p>
<p>To equate the two kinds of service is like saying in the US that because there is Fox News you don&#8217;t need National Public Radio, although its audience is eight times that of Fox.</p>
<p>Interestingly NPR is not government funded, but it is not provided by a commercial enterprise either. (In 2003 Ray Kroc&#8217;s widow gave an endowment of $200 million, the largest gift ever to a US cultural institution. This has given it a degree of financial stability.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Agricultural subsidies are well-supported, in some countries the mix between Church and State is encouraged by the people, but the popularity of policies can not, in itself, serve as a justification.&#8221;</p>
<p>Popularity is often an important element of justification, but it needs to be balanced against collateral harm that the policy might cause. Agricultural subsidies are popular among US the farmers who receive them. They are also popular among US congressmen and senators who receive large campaign donations from subsidy recipients, but they are not popular among farmers in Mexico and elsewhere who have been driven off the land by subsidised US products that are priced lower than farmers&#8217; cost of production.</p>
<p>A new crisis was subsequently created when the US introduced a subsidy for corn-based ethanol, causing the price of corn to skyrocket on world markets. </p>
<p>And if there was a referendum asking US taxpayers whether they wanted $20 billion a year of government money to go mainly to a few hundred farmers, I&#8217;m not sure there would be overwhelming support.</p>
<p>Interesting article on subsidies at <a href="http://progressive.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/article.php?article_id=315" rel="nofollow">http://progressive.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/article.php?article_id=315</a></p>
<p>Good article also on US health system reform at <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonjour Shane,  

Super ton site. Je n&#039;ai pas tout lu encore, mais ça semble très intéressant. Tu écris bien alors ce sera un plaisir de te lire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjour Shane,  </p>
<p>Super ton site. Je n&#8217;ai pas tout lu encore, mais ça semble très intéressant. Tu écris bien alors ce sera un plaisir de te lire.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Art &amp; Subsidies; An Open Letter to Xavier Dolan by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeM, concerning the United States, they dedicate a much larger share of their money to healthcare (&lt;a href=&quot;http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/012006061T02.xls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;roughly 15% of GDP as opposed to less than 10% of GDP for just about every other country in the world&lt;/a&gt;) and there is a federal insurance program; the issue is not that they are not putting enough money in healthcare -- far from that --, it&#039;s that they&#039;re wildly inefficient in doing so and that is why I am very critical of their healthcare and I do believe that the public model is more efficient. However, I think that it&#039;s too difficult to draw comparisons between the health or education industries and art, since from the first two sectors are needed by every citizen much in the same way, while for entertainment, not everyone has the same needs. 

For example, Radio-Canada (a francophone television network) is funded by the government. I don&#039;t care for television, but it&#039;s popular enough, though far less than its private counterpart, TVA. This goes to show that a private network can indeed provide these services, and apparently, in a way that is better linked to the wants of people (and let&#039;s not speak of the popularity of US-based television shows). And even if this meant that the television industry should collapse: are sitcoms, talkshows, reality TV and dramas -- typical, trashy television -- a fair reason to redistribute wealth? I believe not. I believe that some things are, but certainly not for television, which is mere entertainment, often said to be one of capitalism&#039;s most crass forms of entertainment. We might as well subsidise circus&#039; (no offense intended towards clowns).

This said, you are right that we live, after all, in a democracy, but it is good to keep in mind that we live in a liberal democracy -- a certain balance between individual rights and majority rights was intended --. In this case, people in Quebec are asking for the federal government to subsidise art (not that I&#039;m happy to consider television &quot;art&quot;). I don&#039;t see how that&#039;s a federal matter, but the lobby is indeed strong and central government feels that if it taxes money to give back to us, that we will feel more &quot;dependent&quot; on them and thus maintain Canadian unity.

But I&#039;m getting sidetracked: do you believe that democracy is necessarily right, because it seems that you are using &quot;democracy&quot; not just to explain why these policies exist, but to justify them. Agricultural subsidies are well-supported, in some countries the mix between Church and State is encouraged by the people, but the popularity of policies can not, in itself, serve as a justification. We need to look at the economics of agricultural subsidies, we need to look at those individuals who want no part of a Church/State mix. 

Relativism is comfortable and it is even necessary for personal comfort, due to the fact that things are not always as we think they should be, but I believe that it hampers one&#039;s motivation to find truth; we must look not just at what is popular, but at what is right, and though these, to a large extent, will match, they will not always do so.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeM, concerning the United States, they dedicate a much larger share of their money to healthcare (<a href="http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/012006061T02.xls" rel="nofollow">roughly 15% of GDP as opposed to less than 10% of GDP for just about every other country in the world</a>) and there is a federal insurance program; the issue is not that they are not putting enough money in healthcare &#8212; far from that &#8211;, it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re wildly inefficient in doing so and that is why I am very critical of their healthcare and I do believe that the public model is more efficient. However, I think that it&#8217;s too difficult to draw comparisons between the health or education industries and art, since from the first two sectors are needed by every citizen much in the same way, while for entertainment, not everyone has the same needs. </p>
<p>For example, Radio-Canada (a francophone television network) is funded by the government. I don&#8217;t care for television, but it&#8217;s popular enough, though far less than its private counterpart, TVA. This goes to show that a private network can indeed provide these services, and apparently, in a way that is better linked to the wants of people (and let&#8217;s not speak of the popularity of US-based television shows). And even if this meant that the television industry should collapse: are sitcoms, talkshows, reality TV and dramas &#8212; typical, trashy television &#8212; a fair reason to redistribute wealth? I believe not. I believe that some things are, but certainly not for television, which is mere entertainment, often said to be one of capitalism&#8217;s most crass forms of entertainment. We might as well subsidise circus&#8217; (no offense intended towards clowns).</p>
<p>This said, you are right that we live, after all, in a democracy, but it is good to keep in mind that we live in a liberal democracy &#8212; a certain balance between individual rights and majority rights was intended &#8211;. In this case, people in Quebec are asking for the federal government to subsidise art (not that I&#8217;m happy to consider television &#8220;art&#8221;). I don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s a federal matter, but the lobby is indeed strong and central government feels that if it taxes money to give back to us, that we will feel more &#8220;dependent&#8221; on them and thus maintain Canadian unity.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m getting sidetracked: do you believe that democracy is necessarily right, because it seems that you are using &#8220;democracy&#8221; not just to explain why these policies exist, but to justify them. Agricultural subsidies are well-supported, in some countries the mix between Church and State is encouraged by the people, but the popularity of policies can not, in itself, serve as a justification. We need to look at the economics of agricultural subsidies, we need to look at those individuals who want no part of a Church/State mix. </p>
<p>Relativism is comfortable and it is even necessary for personal comfort, due to the fact that things are not always as we think they should be, but I believe that it hampers one&#8217;s motivation to find truth; we must look not just at what is popular, but at what is right, and though these, to a large extent, will match, they will not always do so.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that in the 2007-08 budget the provincial government budgeted $405 million to be given to the City of Montreal plus another $240 million for the City employees&#039; superannuation fund plus other sums of amounts unspecified in the budget speech.

In contrast to that mean-spirited parsimony, it budgeted to lavish a huge $10 million on films, http://www.budget.finances.gouv.qc.ca/budget/2007-2008/index_en.asp

Hmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that in the 2007-08 budget the provincial government budgeted $405 million to be given to the City of Montreal plus another $240 million for the City employees&#8217; superannuation fund plus other sums of amounts unspecified in the budget speech.</p>
<p>In contrast to that mean-spirited parsimony, it budgeted to lavish a huge $10 million on films, <a href="http://www.budget.finances.gouv.qc.ca/budget/2007-2008/index_en.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.budget.finances.gouv.qc.ca/budget/2007-2008/index_en.asp</a></p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is mischievous to refer to &quot;taxpayers&#039; money&quot;. Once it has been extracted from the incomes of businesses and individuals, and accumulated from wherever else a government chooses to tax, it is government money.

A good government will take some account of the various wishes of its citizens in deciding how its money should be spent. In a democracy, if the citizens are sufficiently disenchanted with how government does this, it will vote those politicians out and elect some more.

The opera-lovers&#039; lobby is small but vocal in Australia and I dare say the same is true in Quebec. Making a big effort to attract government attention and government funds is not unreasonable as long as the process is transparent and it is not carried too far.

The mood in the English-speaking world, and indeed stretching to nations as remote from world financial centres as Iceland, http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/iceland200904, has been over the past couple of decades that if governments got out of the way, the market will take care of everything - whether it be an adequate supply of music CDs, poetry or Guinness.

The current financial crisis, while neither Australia nor Canada is as severely affected as many other countries, is a direct consequence of belief in the power of markets.

So there are occasions when the markets fail to provide adequately for needs. There is virtually no service that government *must* provide although there are many services that, if government does not provide them directly, it must engage firms on its terms to do that. 

The US health care system is an example of what happens if health care is left primarily to employers and health insurance companies without governments taking an active role.

Whether a government decides to inject money into the market for opera or for movies; for art galleries or orchestras; to subsidise poets or subsidise farmers: that shapes the kind of society that that state becomes.

There are no grounds for saying that it is wrong for a government to put money into any of these, apart from the fact that many citizens think that it is a good idea. What you can say is that your personal preference would be that it subsidises none of them. If enough of your fellow citizens agree with you, eventually your government will get the message, and stop.

In the 18th century France was considered the centre of the arts. As Napoleon disparagingly remarked of the British, &quot;L&#039;Angleterre est une nation de boutiquiers&quot;.

It would be ironic if in the 21st century, Quebec discontinued all funding and government encouragement for the arts, leaving the province&#039;s inhabitants, standing out from the rest of Canada, as &quot;a society of shopkeepers*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is mischievous to refer to &#8220;taxpayers&#8217; money&#8221;. Once it has been extracted from the incomes of businesses and individuals, and accumulated from wherever else a government chooses to tax, it is government money.</p>
<p>A good government will take some account of the various wishes of its citizens in deciding how its money should be spent. In a democracy, if the citizens are sufficiently disenchanted with how government does this, it will vote those politicians out and elect some more.</p>
<p>The opera-lovers&#8217; lobby is small but vocal in Australia and I dare say the same is true in Quebec. Making a big effort to attract government attention and government funds is not unreasonable as long as the process is transparent and it is not carried too far.</p>
<p>The mood in the English-speaking world, and indeed stretching to nations as remote from world financial centres as Iceland, <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/iceland200904" rel="nofollow">http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/04/iceland200904</a>, has been over the past couple of decades that if governments got out of the way, the market will take care of everything &#8211; whether it be an adequate supply of music CDs, poetry or Guinness.</p>
<p>The current financial crisis, while neither Australia nor Canada is as severely affected as many other countries, is a direct consequence of belief in the power of markets.</p>
<p>So there are occasions when the markets fail to provide adequately for needs. There is virtually no service that government *must* provide although there are many services that, if government does not provide them directly, it must engage firms on its terms to do that. </p>
<p>The US health care system is an example of what happens if health care is left primarily to employers and health insurance companies without governments taking an active role.</p>
<p>Whether a government decides to inject money into the market for opera or for movies; for art galleries or orchestras; to subsidise poets or subsidise farmers: that shapes the kind of society that that state becomes.</p>
<p>There are no grounds for saying that it is wrong for a government to put money into any of these, apart from the fact that many citizens think that it is a good idea. What you can say is that your personal preference would be that it subsidises none of them. If enough of your fellow citizens agree with you, eventually your government will get the message, and stop.</p>
<p>In the 18th century France was considered the centre of the arts. As Napoleon disparagingly remarked of the British, &#8220;L&#8217;Angleterre est une nation de boutiquiers&#8221;.</p>
<p>It would be ironic if in the 21st century, Quebec discontinued all funding and government encouragement for the arts, leaving the province&#8217;s inhabitants, standing out from the rest of Canada, as &#8220;a society of shopkeepers*.</p>
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